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จักร is jak or jak gra

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จักร is jak or jak gra

Postby nakriian » Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:23 am

Subject: จักร is jak or jak gra

If you say the word จักร for wheel as a stand-a-lone word, do you say (1)jak or (2)jak gra? ́(getting conflicting using thai-language.com's online dictioanry.

Also, when you use it in combination with other words, like motorcyle for example จักรยานยนต์, is it (1)jak yaan yohn or (2)jak gra yaan yohn?
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Re: จักร is jak or jak gra

Postby David and Bui » Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:25 am

The pronunciation is a bit idiosyncratic:

จักรวาล /tcàkˑkràˑwāːn/ [N] universe
จักรกล /tcàkˑkōn/ [N] key factor
จักรพรรดิ /tcàkˑkràˑpʰát/ [N] emperor
จักรพรรดินี /tcàkˑkràˑpʰátˑdìˑnīː/ [N] empress
จักรภพ /tcàkˑkràˑpʰóp/ [N] commonwealth
จักรยาน /tcàkˑkràˑjāːn/ [N] bicycle
จักรราศี /tcàkˑrāːˑsǐː/ [N] zodiac
จักรวรรดิ /tcàkˑkràˑwàt/ [N] empire
จักริน /tcàkˑkàˑrīn/ [N] king
จักรี /tcàkˑkrīː/ [N] Chakri
จักรเย็บผ้า /tcàkˑjépˑpʰâː/ [N] sewing machine
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Re: จักร is jak or jak gra

Postby pensive » Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:12 pm

As it appears to be Sanskrit, I believe the rule is to carry the 'gr' if the next syllable is also Sanskrit but not otherwise.
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