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[Josh]

SMS speak would be stuff like LOL, r u going, ROTFL, etc. Basically, the shorthand stuff you use with phone and mobile device text messages to supposedly save time and space.

Just see what happens in 20 years when college papers will accept SMS speak. Sad...

[Richard Wordingham]

I've only come across one word ending in ฬ (maybe there are more, but it doesn't seem to be that common), which is กาฬ (dark, black) and I guess is a loanword from Pali/Sanskrit or Khmer.

Indic, as in the goddess Kali. วาฬ 'cetacean' is a common word ending in ฬ. จักรวาล 'universe' is sometimes spelt จักรวาฬ - a curious word, effectively borrowed from Pali into Sanskrit.

[relishThai.com]

As I understand, I think the purpose of this post is trying to write Thai words from any scripts or transliteration in Roman.
I'm not sure if I understand correctly. You might would like to write Thai words or sentences from Roman transcription.
For example, "Dek kam lang wing" to "เด็กกำลังวิ่ง". Is that correct?

For me as a Thai person, I would not recommend you to learn writing Thai words that way. As you've known one Thai sound like "n" can be written as น or ณ so you might not know which consonant you will use. That might give you a headache. I would recommend you to use a good dictionary and search for the word that you'd like to write in English to get a Thai word and then learn the way how we spell each word by memory. This way you will know that "eat" will be "กิน" not "กิณ" or "กิล" or "กิฬ".

For native speakers in any language, we all learn by memory. We listen and read it every single day so we memorize the way to spell each word.

In my opinion, the Roman scripts are for showing the way how we pronouce Thai consonants or vowels. I think it does not work to turn them to the original Thai words. But if you'd like to use for transscripts foreign words, that will be another reason.

I might be wrong. That's just my opinion.

[Richard Wordingham]

In my opinion, the Roman scripts are for showing the way how we pronouce Thai consonants or vowels. I think it does not work to turn them to the original Thai words. But if you'd like to use for transscripts foreign words, that will be another reason.

I might be wrong. That's just my opinion.

Well, the graphical system (as devised by Rama VI and recounted by Griswold) almost works for intelligible, reversible transliteration if you can apply the Great Thai consonant shift in your head. The problems are:

1) Distinguishing แอ v. แอ็, ออ v. อ็อ, เออ v. เอ็อ. The spirit of the system strongly suggests that the short vowels should have breves, and the problem may just be that Griswold overlooked these cases when explaining the system. That would gives us ĕ̀ ŏ̀ œ̆ for the short vowels - beyond the capabilities of quite a few fonts.

2) The indication of thanthakhat. I couldn't find any explanation of how one distinguishes พรรค and พรรค์ or เกียรติ and เกียรติ์. Some systems put the silenced letters in parentheses, but I don't think that was Rama Vi's scheme.