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[Pirin]

I can't understand why everyone is down on "Mind". He stated his position clearly and responded to arguments in an appropriate manner. It doesn't matter if you think he is misguided - it is his life and he has shown how he is going to spend his life. Arguing with his position will only make you look smaller by comparison.

แสดงว่า "หนทางพิสูจน์ม้ากาลเวลาพิสูจน์คน" ใช่ไหมคะ
http://www.thai-language.com/id/4697

[Edit: Reference http://www.thai-language.com/id/210585]

[r2d2]

[Isn't it interesting that Google Translate does a great job in rendering German into English, while its ability to translate Thai to English is much more limited.]

Not so convinced

"Sie behaupten, dass, wenn Sie Aussprache Fehler zu wiederholen immer und immer wieder, als sie ein Niveau erreichen, wurden die Fehler versenkt sind so tief in, dass Sie wirklich arge Probleme loswerden zu haben."
"They claim that if you repeat pronunciation mistakes over and over, than they can reach a level were the mistakes are sunk so deep in, that you have really bad problems to get rid of them."

[pensive]

แสดงว่า "หนทางพิสูจน์ม้ากาลเวลาพิสูจน์คน" ใช่ไหมคะ
http://www.thai-language.com/id/4697

[Edit: Reference http://www.thai-language.com/id/210585]

Exactly!

[pensive]

[Isn't it interesting that Google Translate does a great job in rendering German into English, while its ability to translate Thai to English is much more limited.]

Not so convinced

"Sie behaupten, dass, wenn Sie Aussprache Fehler zu wiederholen immer und immer wieder, als sie ein Niveau erreichen, wurden die Fehler versenkt sind so tief in, dass Sie wirklich arge Probleme loswerden zu haben."
"They claim that if you repeat pronunciation mistakes over and over, than they can reach a level were the mistakes are sunk so deep in, that you have really bad problems to get rid of them."

Don't know what your point is here, but in answer to David I can say that Google Translate was trained (initially) on the archives of the United Nations. The UN has six official languages, so there was a huge corpus for each of those languages. German is one of the languages and Thai is not.

[r2d2]

Don't know what your point is here, but in answer to David I can say that Google Translate was trained (initially) on the archives of the United Nations. The UN has six official languages, so there was a huge corpus for each of those languages. German is one of the languages and Thai is not.

My point here was that those tools seem to be unable managing minor bugs.

I'll show it to you:

de. en.
Mäuschen little mouse
Mäus chen Ptolemy Chen
Mäu schen mice between

Would say, no, not mice between, only a single BUG in-between.

And when it comes up to grammar ...

Rather, I would expect that for the language pair English-German the corpus should be one of the largest available ... for a lot of good reasons. So, to "googelize" a German-English translation (and vice versa) should result in quite good results ("among the best available"). But I'm still sceptic - Ptolemy Chen.

[daฟาน]

I think a google translation can only be helpful if you actually know both languages to a certain extend. I am never happy with the actual result you get.

However I am studying French right now and I often use it to check whether I understood the text correctly or not and sometimes I discovered mistakes I made, by using the Google translation....

[r2d2]

I think a google translation can only be helpful if you actually know both languages to a certain extend..... However ... I often use it to check .... by using the Google translation....

Grüatzi khun daฟาน,

I fully agree with you. I would like to add that, by profession, among others I have to check German translations of English SmPCs (Summary of Product Characteristics [of Medicinal Products [[US = Drugs]]) for means of national (or EU wide) marketing authorizations. "This translation is bablefished" is slang we often use. Or: looks like a Japanese original translated by a Chinese engine into Greek ... etc. In summary, interesting tools, which, however, should be used with caution. I feel that it will NEVER happen that an English SmPC will be "google-ized into a German one, albeit this would save not only me a lot of time.

[r2d2]

However I am studying French right now

Thus, your mother tongue is Italian (the tongue of your mother is of flesh - not from Italy -we can agree)?

Sorry for the - rude, stupid, direct - question but your name daฟาน looks so "classical" - van der Zahn, or foniculi fonicula? I do not understand its meaning, daฟาน - by far too classical.

But, supposing you are, by passport, Swiss ... studying French

My Roman friend told me that S.P.Q.R meant once: Sono Porci Questi Romani. I cannot agree with this statement. Nowadays this imprint means only 'la comune di Roma' is using here, at this place, streat drains.

[daฟาน]

However I am studying French right now

Thus, your mother tongue is Italian (the tongue of your mother is of flesh - not from Italy -we can agree)?

Sorry for the - rude, stupid, direct - question but your name daฟาน looks so "classical" - van der Zahn, or foniculi fonicula? I do not understand its meaning, daฟาน - by far too classical.

But, supposing you are, by passport, Swiss ... studying French

My Roman friend told me that S.P.Q.R meant once: Sono Porci Questi Romani. I cannot agree with this statement. Nowadays this imprint means only 'la comune di Roma' is using here, at this place, streat drains.

servas

I'm Austrian. I'm studying French as it is a small part of my studies (International Economic Sience). I would prefer Thai instead but unfortunately we do not have any Thai teachers at my university :/ So I gotta stick with French.
Hehe my name doesn't come from a big thing like this, it's just my very own Version of "stefan" / the Fan.

[r2d2]

servas

Then a servus Stefan again, and

Could be that, thus, I misunderstood David (Swiss/Austrian) discussing here posts in German language. I simply was curious knowing why a Swiss man will learn French ... and what, thus, must be his motherlanguage.

Thus, sorry for my mixing-up, and nice to meet you.