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ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Aural and oral characteristics of the Thai language

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Re: ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Postby sunjay » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:52 am

i know struggling is the most important one to identify the difference but i do not know it is possible to identify.....
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Re: ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Postby thaitom » Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:44 am

Speaking of and ...

Has anyone ever noticed that the Pali language in Thai is spelt with a as in บาลี, but when one is actually using the dictionary they almost always use something like (.) to mean that the word's history can be traced back to the Pali language?? Why not use (.) to represent บาลี in the same why that (.) is meant to represent สันสฤต??

I have always found this delightfully annoying. I am guessing that one of you bright folks will know the answer to this one!

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Re: ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Postby simonbournemouth » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:52 am

I would imagine (.) is an abbreviation of the Pali spelling for Pali: ปาลิ
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Re: ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Postby Nan » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:10 am

In dictionary, they have . for เบงคอลี, hence, Pali - . :D

From RID:

ปาลี ๑ น. ผู้ปกครอง, ผู้เลี้ยง, ผู้รักษา. (., .).
ปาลี ๒ น. บาลี. (., . ปาลิ).


บาลี น. ภาษาที่ใช้เป็นหลักในพระพุทธศาสนานิกายเถรวาท; คัมภีร์
พระไตรปิฎก, พุทธพจน์, เรียกว่า พระบาลี. (., . ปาลิ).

Another reason, there is no in Pali. ManyThai words which start with have derived from Pali words which start with .
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Re: ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Postby djhutchinson » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:51 am

Hi, one thing I think could be useful:

Think of the "p" in "sport". It is NOT an aspirated "p", but a soft one (a ). (Compare it with "port".)
Similarly, think of the "t" in "student": Again it is unaspirated (the Thai ), and much softer than the "t" in "table".

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Re: ป บ struggling to identify the difference, advice sought!

Postby djhutchinson » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:52 am

Hi, one thing I think could be useful:

Think of the "p" in "sport". It is NOT an aspirated "p", but a soft one (a ). (Compare it with "port".)
Similarly, think of the "t" in "student": Again it is unaspirated (the Thai ), and much softer than the "t" in "table".

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