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Reading and Speaking

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Reading and Speaking

Postby David and Bui » Wed Oct 19, 2016 7:46 pm

From a headline in a magazine this week: "อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน". I believe this means, "If you want to speak well and intelligently, you must read." or "Reading is critical to speaking articulately and intelligently."

What do you think?
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby Tgeezer » Thu Oct 20, 2016 12:21 am

I agree David.
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby username » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:07 pm

Why it's not ...ก็ต้องอ่าน ?
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby David and Bui » Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:13 pm

username wrote:Why it's not ...ก็ต้องอ่าน ?

Good question. Perhaps headline space limitations.
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby Pirin » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:15 am

David and Bui wrote:From a headline in a magazine this week: "อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน". I believe this means, "If you want to speak well and intelligently, you must read." or "Reading is critical to speaking articulately and intelligently."

What do you think?


username wrote:Why it's not ...ก็ต้องอ่าน ?


1.
อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน = formal

2.
อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งก็ต้องอ่าน = conversational
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby username » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:05 pm

Pirin wrote:
David and Bui wrote:From a headline in a magazine this week: "อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน". I believe this means, "If you want to speak well and intelligently, you must read." or "Reading is critical to speaking articulately and intelligently."

What do you think?


username wrote:Why it's not ...ก็ต้องอ่าน ?


1.
อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน = formal

2.
อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งก็ต้องอ่าน = conversational


Does ก็ have a place in formal Thai? This seems such a perfect place to drop a ก็, so where would I use it if not here?
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby Pirin » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:46 am

username wrote:
.....

Does ก็ have a place in formal Thai? This seems such a perfect place to drop a ก็, so where would I use it if not here?


It does take a long time, lots of energy, and high motivation to do a research so that one can answer this question.
I don't think I can do it for you. I will not answer any other questions related to this either.
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Re: Reading and Speaking

Postby Tgeezer » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:04 pm

username wrote:
Pirin wrote:
David and Bui wrote:From a headline in a magazine this week: "อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน". I believe this means, "If you want to speak well and intelligently, you must read." or "Reading is critical to speaking articulately and intelligently."

What do you think?


username wrote:Why it's not ...ก็ต้องอ่าน ?


1.
อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งต้องอ่าน = formal

2.
อยากพูดดีพูดเก่งก็ต้องอ่าน = conversational


Does ก็ have a place in formal Thai? This seems such a perfect place to drop a ก็, so where would I use it if not here?

I see what you mean. If you think of two clauses the second the result of the first 'then' you seem to need a conjunction (ก็/จึง)
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